It was an honor to sit down with two of my beloved spiritual teachers!

In this conversation, we talk about consciousness, health, and healing - which happens to be the title of a year long course offered at the University of Santa Monica, the school that Drs. Ron and Mary have co-directors for over 35 years! I have had the privilege of spending many years in the classroom with these two incredible souls, as well as 1 year on faculty during the latest Consciousness, Health, and Healing program.

Some “golden nuggets”from this episode include...

• What IS Spiritual Psychology

• Key principles of Spiritual Psychology

• What are the meanings of health issues from the spiritual perspective

• Ways to maintain spiritual fitness in todays world

I undoubtedly could have gone on and on into more deep territory with these two wonderful beings. This is rich and meaningful content!